What’s Wrong Here?

Wait, a murderer has “done nothing wrong”??

The following is a recent slice of a very long running group text conversation that I am deeply grateful for. It has been a huge part of my growth these last two years, bringing out the confident coach and teacher that can flow through me when I get present and tune in. I have also been taught the humility that comes when my ego is leading the way.

The context here is that my friends have just watched the first couple of Matt Kahn videos in a free series that he and Hay House are putting out. The overarching theme of these videos is that until now most spiritual self improvement teachings come from a perspective in which there is a problem to fix. And that such a paradigm can create a lot of self judgement along our path of perceived progress or failure.

I think the questions asked are very common ones, and sharing this discussion could prove helpful.

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Scott– Need some of your wisdom here. Golden Rule number 1…“I’ve done nothing wrong”. I get it…nothing someone does separates them from Source. Fine with that. But the person who treats others badly…the unsupportive/abusive partner. This dictator who harms many in terrible ways. The person who swindles many out of their retirement funds, etc etc. Ok, those deeds do not separate them from Source. But can we say in each case that they have done nothing wrong? Can they look in the mirror and say that? “I’ve done nothing wrong“? Could you say to survivors of an extermination that the person who ordered the exterminations did nothing wrong?

ToddMmm. I hear you. It gets harder when we look at things done out of deeper disconnects from love. [We ARE disconnected from Source/Love vibrationally but NOT relationally when we act from a place of fear or anger.]

I think this is an issue of semantics. Words carry a lot of weight. So when Matt or I use the word “wrong”, idk….for me I don’t see it as something to be judged. That is separate from identifying it as something disconnected, something unkind, something inappropriate in its effect on others.

So no one has done anything I want to judge, even a murderer. But I can still say and feel with no resistance that murder, rape, abuse, etc…IS NOT OK.  I don’t condone it. What can be done to stop it, while remaining in love, should be done. Absolutely.
      I just stop short of judging it in the Biblical sense. What people filled with hate or fear need is love, not more fear based punishment.
     Matt was talking in the self examination context. And even a Hitler is going to be served by the same processes we are. As far as healing goes.

Susan– So…judge no one, nothing… just give love, choose the highest vibration experiences, connections, etc, and pay no attention to the rest?

ToddIs that what I said? Reread the text.

Scott– It sounds like “wrong” has a couple of different contexts. Todd….can you or would you say that you (personally) have never done anything wrong in your lifetime?                I’m asking this stuff sincerely…just started listening (first five min) but should I be able to look at all the events that have occurred in my life and say...”I’ve done nothing wrong”. Is that the goal? I do think there is some very powerful stuff in that idea.

ToddYes and no. I think if you read my earlier text that context makes sense. Have I been a jerk, insensitive, unkind, selfish? Of course. Was that just fine? No. Do I judge myself about it? No. Not anymore. 

If we truly accept that everything can be for ones growth, we can say people should not do unloving things and still see the silver lining for the one on the receiving end. And yes, it is a very powerful idea indeed. Transformational actually, as self forgiveness is always one’s biggest issue.

Scott- Still seems like a very complex issue to me. I did read all of your texts but it still seems like the things that a person does are sometimes not ok, and at the same time a person has never done anything wrong. Would be a lot easier if the answer was simply “I’ve never done anything wrong.”

Todd Sure. And you can say that.  I certainly know what you mean. You see my differentiation, right? You can use the word wrong. I guess to me that word carries a cultural implication of judgement or punishment. I don’t want us to punish anyone. Least of all ourselves.

Susan– So… we can never do anything “wrong” in the sense that everything is happening exactly as it should (“right”), so no judging ourselves. But there are “not ok” things, unkind things, unloving things, even criminal things that are wrong in the sense of hurting or harming others in some way. That is what you (and Matt) mean?

Scott– Does Source keep any kind of record of wrongs? Of any kind? If it doesn’t…why not view ourselves in the same way?

Susan– View ourselves how? With no record?

Scott– Yes. No record of wrongs.

ToddNo, Sue, I don’t see it exactly as you asked. Everything happens. When you add ” as it should”, what does that mean to you? Does it convey the idea that all hateful things we choose to do is what Love/Life/Source wants to have happen? If it does mean that to you, I disagree.

Love/Source never “wants” for anything. It only responds. With more Love.

That is very important for the two of you. Religion gave us a deep cultural cellular memory of a God who wants this and that. Love is whole, needs nothing. It expands because that is the nature of Love. It can’t help it. It is not a desire based thing.

So Source/The Universe responds. To us. We are the captains of the good ship Mankind. We disconnect and do fearful things. We can respond in different ways. We can see through the eyes of Love and see chicken soup where there is chicken shit. Or we can just see through our fear goggles and see the shit.
Laughing thinking of Kyle’s bit in the Limitation Game about Fearnoculars. So funny.

Scott– Does Source keep any kind of record of wrongs? Of any kind? If it doesn’t…why not view ourselves in the same way?

Susan– View ourselves how? With no record?

Scott– Yes. No record of wrongs.

ToddYes Scott, YES! Look at yourself that way! No judgement. Look, everything is recorded. We will have a life review when we die. For learning purposes. There will be no judgement from Source/Love around it. 
We have to learn to see these things beyond the black and white of 3D thinking. We have to see them from place of Love. This is Matt’s message.

Scott– So…the dictator, the tyrant etc….Source views them exactly the same way as me and you? No record of any wrong thing they did…because there is no wrong in the eyes of source?
So I have never done anything wrong in my life?

Todd I can totally agree with that statement if we simply replace the word record with judgement. No judgement of any wrong they did. No judgement about hateful fearful disconnected actions. 

Do you get me? Why can’t we say “Source is incapable of judgement. There is no punishment for anything I’ve done that either I or someone else may feel was wrong.”
Why can’t we use the word wrong for being an insensitive prick, but lose our need for punishment?

Scott– Got it. Quite helpful

Todd– Murder is not a loving act. From the eyes of Love I can see that clearly. In fact I feel it. I feel the pain of it. In love I want to comfort both those affected and the murderer. So much pain on both sides. As Love I want only to heal it all. Not to punish.

Source loves unconditionally.

There. Simple.

 

 

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